israel doesn't want that. the palestinians on the overhand and we on the arab side, the islamic world. we don't want to see any new settlement units being built in e 1 which will spell the death knell to the future viability of the palestinian state that we have recognized ourselves. and so when you, when there is a symmetry here, that both sides can put pressure of an enormous kind on the other. and you hope that before these steps are sustain, one wakes up, one sees that there is no other alternative, that we must think very clearly. and that not you will creative means by which we can solve this problem have been exhausted. why has the approach never been tried. why can't we get the experts to discuss many of the municipal issues, the hydrologists, dem og-- demographers, municipal experts, leave the most sensitive issues for a later stage. why don't we have a standing negotiating cell, for instance. there are things that we can talk about. and even in terms of the arab peace initiative. >> nobody is talking